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  2. Between you and paradise

    Everywhere she goes, evil men die, and we cheer her for it. And she grows more sure that she is good and right. She believes that her destiny is to build a better world for everyone. If you believed it; if you truly believed it, would you not kill anyone who came between you and paradise?
    tip of the hat to Panam Post

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    Trump's one virtue

    ??Trump's one virtue is that he's a disruptor.??
    — NeoWayland
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    Practical feminism

    In the event of a flat tire feminism will be suspended until a man has changed the tire.
    — Kirby McCain

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    Agreement and understanding

    We are conditioned from a variety of sources to automatically expect agreement to follow from understanding.
    — Franklin Evans

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    Mark of monotheism

    ??Christians over the years have killed a lot more people in the name of their God or for the Greater Good than anyone else. It seems to be a mark of monotheism, and something the rest of us wish the monotheists would grow out of of.??
    — NeoWayland
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    Sins of your faith

    ??If you are going to claim enlightenment in the name of your faith, you'd better damn accept the sins too.??
    — NeoWayland
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    Blind spots and authority

    ??I know that expertise does more to define blind spots than establish authority.??
    — NeoWayland
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    NeoNote — Biblical morality

    ??Inherent in the argument of Biblical morality is that it brings benefits without significant tradeoffs, or at least in the idea that the benefits far outweigh the costs. That's not true. In the OT number one of the Decalogue specifically says that the Hebrew G*D is unquestionably number one. That's fine if you are sworn to that faith, but accepting a Biblical morality means that any other gods must take second place.

    Speaking of the OT, Christians and even modern Jews are curiously selective when it comes to which laws are followed. The books of Numbers and Leviticus list laws that are routinely ignored today.

    Let's move to the NT, shall we? According to Jesus (as quoted by John and who knows how many editors and rewriters), what's the greatest commandment? Why, it's a version of number one from the previous hit parade. But then that is the whole premise of a monotheism. No other gods allowed, and only selected interpretations of the Official Religion.

    The costs aren't worth the benefits unless you follow that faith. Bottom line, if a society follows a Biblical morality, other belief systems must always submit to the Bible as defined by the dominant sect. Which is the point. It's not about the faith, it's not about glorifying the Divine. It's about power over. Through the priesthood. Through the princes, potentates, and politicos sanctioned by the priesthood. Power over. Politics.

    Religion cannot be allowed the coercive power of government. Government cannot be allowed the moral justification of religion.

    So instead of law handed down from on high (at least according to a priesthood with their own political agenda), let's see if we can find a moral keystone that isn't subject to religious edict. We don't have to look very far for the ethic of reciprocity. Don't do it if you don't want it done to you. It probably didn't originate in the West, but it is the keystone of Western Civilization. More importantly, it doesn't require sanction from the local priesthood to work. It's tied to self-interest, one of the strongest drives we have.

    One of my parlor tricks is showing how an entire system of ethics can be built on the EoR.

    The thing is, there is nothing in the EoR that displaces or contradicts the Bible. But there is everything against using Biblical authority to rule over others. So the only thing a monotheist has to surrender is their expectation of control over others. Which naturally just follows. If you don't want to be controlled, you shouldn't seek to control.

    It is the only way that different belief systems can live and work together.



    I never claimed anything else. I also never claimed that it came from on high.

    The ethic of reciprocity does have advantages. It works whenever it's tried and does not require submission to gods that you might not worship or deferring to different religious rules.

    Would you be willing to follow the rules and requirements of another faith if you had not chosen it? Even if it was for "the Greater Good?"

    Is it really moral if you are not allowed to choose?



    Then I choose not to follow a Biblical morality.

    *reaches towards you and extends hand*

    That gives you a choice. Do you force me? Or do you work with me for a mutually beneficial solution that isn't based on raising your faith above all others???
    NeoNotes are the selected comments that I made on other boards, in email, or in response to articles where I could not respond directly.

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    “Ideas are far more powerful than guns”

    Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?
    — Joseph Stalin

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    Nothing in common

    Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.
    — Alexis de Tocqueville

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    What would Walt think?

    ??There's a part of me that can't help but wonder what ol' Walt would have thought about a bunch of stormtroopers marching around the Disney parks. Even if it is May the Fourth.??
    — NeoWayland
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    Vulgar mistake

    Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
    — Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    Too much power

    ??I'm going to say this again. If the Democrats are afraid of what Republicans do with government power…

    …if Republicans are are afraid of what Democrats do with government power…

    …if independents don't trust either the Democrats or the Republicans with government power…

    …and if libertarians don't trust government power…

    …maybe, just maybe, the government has too much power.??
    — NeoWayland, comments from Leaks and Barr
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    ☆ Dear Democrats

    Trump may be the worst president you ever heard of. But you have heard of him. And he plays the press better than almost anyone else on the planet.

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    “But in the well-intentioned battle against sexual assault, facts become irrelevant, and truth never seems to matter.”

    “Trauma Informed Investigations Stole My Son’s Future”

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    Save the people

    We are trying to save the people of the planet from the people ‘saving the planet.'

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    American obsession

    Sex. In America an obsession. In other parts of the world a fact.
    — Marlene Dietrich
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    Freed more

    I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed more if only they knew they were slaves.
    — Harriet Tubman
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    Makes sense

    A Modest Proposal For US Slavery Reparations

    Since most of the Democratic Presidential aspirants have come out in favor of at least studying reparations for slavery, I wanted to offer a common sense proposal. I propose that slavery reparation be paid for by the single organization that had the most to do with the existence and protection of slavery in this country: the Democratic Party.
         — Warren Meyer
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    NeoNote – “What I do is not up to you.”

    Not what they wear, not who they live with, not what they eat, not what happens in the bedroom, not what they read, not how they do it, and not who they do it with.

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    FDR and the IRS

    My father may have been the originator of the concept of employing the IRS as a weapon of political retribution.
    — Elliott Roosevelt

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